And that is to be generous. I still do not understand, and have no wish to understand, how certain elements within the Church, during certain eras, thought themselves justified in condoning, or allowing for, the torture and execution of persons found to be in possession of views that were deemed heretical, and that those persons would not recant or abjure. Even when I account for the fact that those elements might have viewed the Church, accurately, as involved in a battle for the salvation of souls.